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The Brazilian guy that was shot dead at Stockwell tube station?

What would you have done if you were in the police officers shoes?
It's the immediate aftermath of the London bombings, you see a guy with a backpack, you ask him to stop and he immediately runs away towards the train. You are not sure if he has a weapon or a bomb in the bag and you have him in your sights.
What do you do?

I know the guy was innocent and all, but can the police really be blamed for what they did?
Ha! Ha! Message to "The Voice": If a guy was running at me with a samurai sword, I would blow his bloody head off!

I would have done the same.

This was completely different to normal armed police methods and practises.

We were in the aftermath of suicide bombings and only the day previous failed attempts at similar bombings.

The police believed thay were surveilling one of the failed bombers (obviously crucial and serious mistakes were made). The officer in charge had to make a decision based on what information/ intelligence they were in possession of.

Sadly the action was based on incorrect info and the male was wrongly suspected of being a terrorist. The commander was not aware of this and acted, believing that he was dealing with a suicide bomber heading for the tube.

The firearms officers will have been clearly instructed on what they had to do. You do not issue a challenge to a suicide bomber..... if you do he detonates the device and kills all those around him. Likewise shooting to stop, as normal at central body mass......he is able to detonate the device, killing all those around him. Head shots at close range are the only definite way of stopping this person. Fail to act and you risk bloodbath on a massive scale. Would you want that on your conscious. You have to put your trust in those in command. They are in possession of more information than you have.

An improvised explosive device can easily be concealed on the person under baggy clothing. It doesnt just have to be a padded coat. The fact that misleading info was leaked after the event was totally wrong.

I think the officer who were on the ground had little option but to do what they were instructed.

It was sad that it turned out to be an innocent person. Clearly mistakes were made. The officers responsible should be held accountable. I dont believe this should include the firearms officers who acted in good faith. The blame lies with the surveillance officer who clearly did not give out accurate information, thet everyone else acted upon.

Edit - The Voice is totally wrong. Trying to shoot at the arm of a moving target running at you with a samurai sword. Let me think about that!!!. We do not target shoot. By that I mean we do not shoot at targets that do not move, having spent 20-30 seconds lining the sight up adjusting stance, breathing etc. Yes we can do that and it is very easy with very close and accurate groupings. That unfortunately is not reality. Time can often be of the essence and you aim for the largest target area, therefore if the target is moving you have a better chance of stopping that person.

And the comment that we "shoot at any sign of a threat" is just ludicrous.

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The Brazilian guy that was shot dead at Stockwell tube station?

What would you have done if you were in the police officers shoes?
It's the immediate aftermath of the London bombings, you see a guy with a backpack, you ask him to stop and he immediately runs away towards the train. You are not sure if he has a weapon or a bomb in the bag and you have him in your sights.
What do you do?

I know the guy was innocent and all, but can the police really be blamed for what they did?
Ha! Ha! Message to "The Voice": If a guy was running at me with a samurai sword, I would blow his bloody head off!

I would have done the same.

This was completely different to normal armed police methods and practises.

We were in the aftermath of suicide bombings and only the day previous failed attempts at similar bombings.

The police believed thay were surveilling one of the failed bombers (obviously crucial and serious mistakes were made). The officer in charge had to make a decision based on what information/ intelligence they were in possession of.

Sadly the action was based on incorrect info and the male was wrongly suspected of being a terrorist. The commander was not aware of this and acted, believing that he was dealing with a suicide bomber heading for the tube.

The firearms officers will have been clearly instructed on what they had to do. You do not issue a challenge to a suicide bomber..... if you do he detonates the device and kills all those around him. Likewise shooting to stop, as normal at central body mass......he is able to detonate the device, killing all those around him. Head shots at close range are the only definite way of stopping this person. Fail to act and you risk bloodbath on a massive scale. Would you want that on your conscious. You have to put your trust in those in command. They are in possession of more information than you have.

An improvised explosive device can easily be concealed on the person under baggy clothing. It doesnt just have to be a padded coat. The fact that misleading info was leaked after the event was totally wrong.

I think the officer who were on the ground had little option but to do what they were instructed.

It was sad that it turned out to be an innocent person. Clearly mistakes were made. The officers responsible should be held accountable. I dont believe this should include the firearms officers who acted in good faith. The blame lies with the surveillance officer who clearly did not give out accurate information, thet everyone else acted upon.

Edit - The Voice is totally wrong. Trying to shoot at the arm of a moving target running at you with a samurai sword. Let me think about that!!!. We do not target shoot. By that I mean we do not shoot at targets that do not move, having spent 20-30 seconds lining the sight up adjusting stance, breathing etc. Yes we can do that and it is very easy with very close and accurate groupings. That unfortunately is not reality. Time can often be of the essence and you aim for the largest target area, therefore if the target is moving you have a better chance of stopping that person.

And the comment that we "shoot at any sign of a threat" is just ludicrous.

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